Welcome to Wild Card Wednesday! Today, we have a special treat. Myndi Shafer, author of Shrilugh, is here to talk about her indie publishing journey and whatever else strikes her fancy.
Before we start, I’d like to say I’ve read Shrilugh and loved it. The book is YA fantasy, partially set in an alternate universe. This is not my regular genre. Despite that, I really got into the story and was left anticipating the next installment in the series. Recommend!
The Big Decision
Q: As far as I can tell, this is your first fiction publication of any kind. How did you decide you wanted to indie publish (as opposed to going the traditional or the small press route)?
A: Yep, Shrilugh is my first book. Early on, I did the same thing lots of writers do – I queried too soon. I was rejected, lots, and for good reason. So I revised and revised, and queried again. It still wasn’t right, so I revised and revised again. By that time, years had passed and the publishing industry had changed a ton. Indie publishing seemed like a good fit, so I thought I’d give it a go.
Costs & Production
We all know that indie publishing is a business. It takes money to run a business. As a first time author, it’s difficult to know what you need to spend money on, what’s a good deal, and what you should do yourself. Tell me about it! Let’s talk about your expenses.
Q: What (if any services) did you outsource?
A: Very few.
Editing – especially copy editing – is the one thing I couldn’t do myself. It’s too darn hard to see those typos and spelling errors myself, because my brain tells me what I want to see.
My sister (Melissa Green) copy edited for me, and since we’re sisters, the price was right.
If anybody’s looking for a copyeditor, she’s great. You can email her at missy0911 [at] sbcglobal [dot] net.
Ebook formatting — If I’d had the means to pay someone to do this, I would have. Formatting requires a part of the brain that I’m apparently lacking. I spent hours and hours and hours doing this, and am honestly dreading doing it for The Darkening.
Cover design — I did it myself. It took a lot of trial and error, but it was fun.
Q: Will you outsource any of this next time?
A: I’ll probably do it all the same again, although at some point I’d love to hire someone to format and do cover design and help me create a marketing strategy to take over the world. All that stuff is so time consuming, and it slows down the writing process, which of course, is what I’d rather be doing. That, and getting a pedicure.
How-To
HOW did you do all this stuff? Let’s take it piece by piece.
Q: The editing. Did you work with betas and critique partners?
A: I actually wasn’t plugged in with any other writers at all until last autumn when I joined Kristen Lamb’s Blogging for Brand class. It never occurred to me to.
I had no idea there was a whole writing culture out there…I was just plugging along alone, kind of wondering if I was the only crazy person in the world who lived in imaginary places in her head. It was both relieving (and a little disturbing) to find there were so many other crazies out there, too.
So, no, I didn’t really work with other writers. I read aloud, every page, every sentence, at least twice. It was time consuming, but worth it. And I got bold with the red pen.
Chopping unneccessary parts of the story, to me, is like cleaning clutter from your home. You can always add back in, but you’ll hardly ever regret tossing something you didn’t need in the first place.
It was beta-read by writers for the first time a couple months ago; that was a whole new experience for me. Writers read totally differently than readers do. Most of the feedback was really helpful, but it all came from a totally different angle than my non-writing beta-readers.
Q: For the cover design, did you work with a graphic design program?
A: I used Pixelmator. I really dig it. It’s a pretty basic program, but it’s got lots of the same features as Photoshop. I purchased the image of the tree from fotolia.com.
Q: How did you do ebook formatting? I know there are programs like Scrivener and Calibre that will supposedly do it for you.
A: I do have Scrivener, but I ended up nuking everything and going through the formatting tutorials on Smashwords and Amazon. I like parts of Scrivener, but sometimes it makes my brain freeze. Honestly, after being forced to use Microsoft Word to format the book for Smashwords, I’m kind-of in love. Once you learn it it’s super easy to use.
Marketing
Q: What marketing are you doing for Shrilugh?
A: Right now I’m depending on word-of-mouth, which makes me über-grateful for folks like you, Catie! Besides that, lots of social media stuff – blogging, of course (myndishafer.wordpress.com), interacting on Facebook and Twitter and Goodreads.
I haven’t attempted any actual advertising – it’s not in the budget at the moment. We are having a launch party/book signing on the 29th in Wichita, so if anyone’s in the area, check out this link (https://www.facebook.com/events/464323156942010/) and come say hello!
Q: Has it been successful so far?
A: Yes. I’ve been astounded, actually, by the amount of people who have been willing to buy, read, and rave on Shrilugh’s behalf. Makes me one very happy girl!
Indie Publishing In General
Q: Did you study any books or websites directed at authors who intend to self publish? If so, have any recommendations?
A: Oh, gosh, it’s kind of embarrassing to answer this question. I’m such a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants kind of girl. If I happened across something somebody was doing I’d make note of it, but mostly I’m winging it. I am, however, a big fan of Kristen Lamb. (Who, by the way, would probably flay me up one side and down the other for my approach to self-publishing.)
The Journey
Q: What has been the hardest part so far?
A: Self-doubt is a bitch. Self-doubt is Hardest Part Number One. Dealing with self-doubt requires a precarious balance of confidence and humility. Confidence that what I’m doing is worth a damn; but enough humility to see when it needs work. Too much or too little of either one of those things leaves the door wide open for self-doubt to sneak in and wreak havoc on the whole process.
Q: What do you wish you’d known before you started?
A: Gosh, I don’t think I haven an answer for that! It’s been really smooth sailing so far. I can’t think of any instance yet where I’ve found myself saying, “I wish someone would have told me that!”
The Book

Q: Where did you get the name Shrilugh?
A: The book is named after trees that glow in the world beyond the silo Door. I needed a name for these glowing trees that told of the fact that (a) they glowed, and (b) at one point, they were revered.
The word Shrilugh is actually a combination of two words from two different cultures. Shri is a Hindu name that means ‘diffusing light, radiance, beauty’. Lugh is a form of the Irish name Lugus that also means light. Both Shri and Lugh are diety-related; Shri if female, while Lugh is male. The two together made a really nice sounding, full-of-meaning name for the trees.
Q: Is the book based on any particular mythology or folktale?
A: Well, I kind of started with the base of a Cinderella-type ideal; a girl who is basically orphaned, technically in the care of (but more indentured by) a rotten family. Obviously I took a ton of liberty with that idea, and the story morphs into something else entirely by the end, but that was kind-of where I started.
Q: How many books are you planning for the Shrilugh saga?
A: Right now, four.
Q: I noticed the next book will be out in October. Does that mean it’s already written?
A: It’s written. I’m revising/editing right now. I really put myself into a time crunch with deciding to release it so soon after Shrilugh, but since the first book ends with a clifhanger, I wanted to release the second quickly.
Q: How many books did you have written and ready to go before you published Shrilugh?
A: The first three are written. Technically the fourth is written, but it’s a super-rough first draft. Like, scary rough.
On a Personal Note
Q: Your main character and the love interest both ride horses. You speak with a fair amount of authority about horse riding and caring for horses. Is this a hobby (or passion) for you?
A: I grew up on a farm and cattle ranch, and I showed horses as a girl, so I was often horseback. Some of my best memories are ones spent riding.
My favorite horse was a bay Quarter Horse named Nana. Sweetest thing on the planet. She was as short as a horse can be without being called a pony, and had the roughest lope you can imagine, but she was always eager and willing to go along with whatever I’d ask of her. Gosh, I loved that horse.
Catie: Thank you so much for joining us today, Myndi and for being so forthcoming about your experiences. I loved Shrilugh and wish you the best of luck with the rest of the series.
Myndi: Thanks so much for having me, Catie! I loved chilling with ya a little bit. Here are some links if you need them:
About Myndi

Bio:
Myndi Shafer digs: tiramisu, the smell of rain, and freshly painted nails.
Myndi Shafer does not dig: stubbing her toe, eating sushi, and formatting eBooks.
Myndi Shafer lives with her husband, four kiddos, a dog, and a bird, and knows her life is charmed.
Find Myndi Shafer Online:
Tweet with Myndi: @MyndiShafer
Buy Shrilugh (or download a sample):
Comments from the peanut gallery are welcome. If you want to ask Myndi a question, please do. She will be stopping by a few times over the course of the day.



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Serena Dracis, Author said:
Will definitely have to read Shrilugh! Congrats Myndi! And terrific interview, Catie. I was like you Myndi, not plugged into the writer community at all until the WANA class. It’s always inspiring to read about how other authors get their works out there. Thank you!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
I’m always amazed by the support and love in the WANA community – so grateful to have fallen in with them. Really hope you dig Shrilugh, Serena!
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Stacy Green said:
Great interview, ladies! Myndi, you did a fantastic job on the cover. I didn’t realize you’d done it on your own. And ditto on the formatting. I just can’t wrap my head around it, and I think I’m going to look into someone doing it for me. That kind of technical stuff makes me want to throw things, lol.
Good for you in getting on with the next book – I do think that’s the key to indie success. Many congrats!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Aw, thanks, Stacy! The cover work was fun, the formatting…not so much. If you can swing it, DEFINITELY have someone do it for you. It’ll save a ton of time, and you’ll save yourself a headache!
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Shannon Esposito said:
Thanks for the interview, Catie. Lots of great information here, Myndi. I like to think of writers like you as the explorers, slashing at the dense jungle of publishing with your machete, creating the path instead of following it. Love, love the cover, by the way!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
LOL. Sometimes I think my machete is a dull butter knife.
And I’m so glad you like the cover – I’m really happy with how it turned out.
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susielindau said:
So great Myndi! Congratulations!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Thanks Susie!
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gingercalem said:
One of the best interviews ever. Great job, Catie! I loved hearing about the meaning of the word/title Shrilugh. Really cool. I can’t believe you don’t like sushi? What the heck. *grin* I wish you every success imaginable with Shrilugh and the upcoming installments in the adventure. Wish I could come to the release party.
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Thanks Ginger! Totally wish you could be at the release party…we’ll catch up with each other one of these days.
Sushi? *shiver* I tried to like it. I really did. I think the fact that I don’t automatically disqualifies me from ‘hipster’ status. *giggle, snort*
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Rhonda Hopkins said:
Great interview ladies! Loved learning a little bit about how Shrilugh came to be. It’s waiting for me in the Cloud and I can’t wait to read it. I wish you much success, Myndie!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Thanks Rhonda!
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Tiffany A White said:
What a fantastic interview!! Thanks for sharing your journey with us, Myndi… and thanks for hosting Myndi, Catie.
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Ditto – thanks, Catie!
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sheridegrom - From the literary and legislative trenches. said:
Terrific interview and the book sounds like a great read.
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Thanks!
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Jennifer Lewis Oliver said:
Awesome interview, Catie!
Myndi, you just made me want to go horseback riding. Nana sounds like a fine horse – I’m glad you had great memories with her.
Shrilugh was amazing. I’m waiting patiently, of course, (um, yeah right) for The Darkening.
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
I have the fondest memories on horseback! Nana was the bomb. Soooo tickled that you’re excited for The Darkening!
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Karen McFarland said:
Awesome interview! Myndi, I can’t believe how much I relate to you. I too had no idea that other people had voices in their heads. (scary) I too didn’t congregate with other writers until last Oct/Nov in Kristen Lambs class. Not to worry girl. If Kristen comes to flay you, I think our WANA1011 class will stand guard. But I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Kristen’s bark is louder than her bite. She’s really a softy, just don’t tell anyone. LOL!
Congratulations Myndi and I wish you all the best of success!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Oh, the voices! *sniggle* I’m grateful every darn day for that class because of the relationships I was able to form there. Including YOU, Miss Karen! *hugs*
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Rachel Funk Heller said:
Hi ladies! Sorry I’m so late to the party, but what a great interview. I’m a big Shrilugh fan and can’t wait for the next installment. “cheers” from out here in the pacific ocean.
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
Thanks, Rachel!
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Catie Rhodes said:
Thanks to all who stopped by and commented. I’ve sort of let Myndi run the show today since you all came to see her anyway. But I am so happy all of you enjoyed the interview. I always ask questions to which I want to know the answers.
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Karen McFarland said:
Well Catie, please pardon my rudeness. I meant to thank you for being such a gracious host. I very much enjoyed your interview. You should do more of them. It suits you well!
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Myndi Shafer...one stray sock away from insanity. said:
She asks great questions!
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Jess Witkins said:
Awesome interview Ladies! I have Shrilugh in my queue on goodreads and all these blog interviews are making me nuts to read it! Must finish my book club reads, and THEN!!!
Love the questions you asked, Catie. That’s all interesting info to us noob writers. I appreciate learning tips from all those indie writers!
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Debra Eve said:
“I was just plugging along alone, kind of wondering if I was the only crazy person in the world…” LOL. You and I both, Myndi! Great interview, ladies. I loved the behind-the-scenes techie stuff.
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Catie Rhodes said:
For what it’s worth, I did this for a couple of years, too. And I’ve been involved in other communities of writers. It was meeting this group of people through Kristen Lamb that really got me moving forward.
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Louise Behiel said:
Sorry I’m so late to the party, Ladies. Lovely interview. Love the cover Myndi. Fabulous to look at and it really stands out. I had no idea you’ve been writing in isolation all these years. wow. you are a brave soul. good luck
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Catie Rhodes said:
It doesn’t matter if you’re late. Thanks for stopping by anyway. I hope you give Shrilugh a try. It really held my interest (even though I don’t read that genre).